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Rep. Michaud supports health care bill
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Rep. Mike Michaud, D-Maine, says he supports the health care overhaul plan.
"While the bill is not perfect, it is an important first step toward fixing our broken and unsustainable health care system," he says
Michaud's decision Sunday to support the bill came two days after Rep. Chellie Pingree, D-Maine, announced that she also was supporting the health care overhaul.
Michaud said he thoroughly reviewed the bill's language. He calls it "a vast improvement to the status quo of skyrocketing premiums that millions of families and small businesses currently face."
Pingree addressed the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives for two minutes Sunday night, urging her colleages to support reform of the nation's health care system.
Pingree, who will vote in support of health care reform, said a small business owner, a married couple and a cardiac patient, all from Maine, wrote to her to say that they could no longer afford the costs of health care insurance.
Her constituents told Pingree that Anthem's proposed 23 percent rate increase would make it impossible to provide health insurance for employees, that their income was not high enough to cover the cost of co-pays and prescription medicine, and that in the case of the heart patient he lost everything because he was out of work.
"Those people wrote to me from Maine, but the stories are told every day in every state – Americans are denied insurance, have their coverage canceled or find themselves bankrupt just because they got sick," Pingree said. "Today we will change that with our vote. Today our vote will start to end the worst practices of the insurance companies, like denying coverage for pre-existing conditions or canceling your policy when you get sick."
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79 COMMENTS
EllenW said...
Opposing health care reform is being anti small business.
March 21, 2010 at 6:52 PM Report abuse
sandman21 said...
And she comes from down east. She an't no loboster woman to me. Jackie has her ear. A real Maine failure
March 21, 2010 at 6:58 PM Report abuse
MSH said...
At least we have ONE Representative with BERRIES...
March 21, 2010 at 7:02 PM Report abuse
EllenW said...
Shouldn't a real Mainer know how to spell lobster? We may have a Texas impostor posting here pretending to be from Maine! Is that you George W?
March 21, 2010 at 7:03 PM Report abuse
HoHum said...
fire that woman in the next election....take her daughter with her too..PLEASE
March 21, 2010 at 7:14 PM Report abuse
MSH said...
What a veritable durth of repugs on the threads today....I thought they'd be rotting away like crazed weasels! Oh, that's right IT'S MARCH MADNESS (Basketball), obviously they have more important things to watch...
March 21, 2010 at 7:17 PM Report abuse
Myview said...
Puppets do as puppets are told.
March 21, 2010 at 7:19 PM Report abuse
MoonbatNot said...
Michaud, I hope they have a job for you. This November you are done. Unless your opponent is found with a dead hooker...you are THROUGH!
March 21, 2010 at 7:25 PM Report abuse
MSH said...
The PPH changes stories and keeps the commentary from the previous article....curiouser...and curiouser...well, at least Rep. Michaud finally grows some berries...
March 21, 2010 at 7:29 PM Report abuse
DTOM said...
Uncovered Shocker: (PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR THIS.) Sen. Byrd Single-Handedly Stopped President Clinton From Using Reconciliation on Health Care Legislation (SOUND FAMILIAR ??) http://www.breitbart.tv/uncovered-shocker-sen-byrd-single-handedly-stopped-president-clinton-from-using-reconciliation/ Sen. Byrd - “Reconciliation Was Never, Never, Never Intended To Be Used As A Shield For Controversial Legislation” Where ARE all those 'good Democrats' now ?????? HYPOCRITES ALL. As Andy Stern(SEIU Pres.)says... "We took names. We watched how they voted. We know where they live."
March 21, 2010 at 7:32 PM Report abuse
EllenW said...
Sigh. Sorry to repeat myself, but it is necessary to counter repeated lies posted here: The law that outlines the use of reconciliation is The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974. It dictates that the Senate may restrict debate to 10 hours (thus eliminating filibuster by a minority) on any bill that rescinds budget authority "in whole or in part". To repeat for emphasis: the controlling law clearly and explicitly states that this process may be used for ANY bill that "in whole or in part" rescinds the president's budgetary authority. Since the proposed revisions to the health care reform bill do in fact rescind some level of presidential budgetary authority, it absolutely falls within this law. Whining by Republicans who have been the party using reconciliation over 77% of the times it has been used, is pure partisan spin aimed at deception.
March 21, 2010 at 7:38 PM Report abuse
BHSR said...
No one who ever thought he wouldn't with the current politics doesn't know the color of green grass. Pingree a "D", Michaud a "D", Baldi a "D", the President a "D", Congress "D" controlled and our own Maine legislature "D" controlled. For all those "D's" in November, you have sealed your own fate. Pack the bags, the ride is over.
March 21, 2010 at 7:39 PM Report abuse
DTOM said...
Sigh... sorry to repeat myself too... “Reconciliation Was Never, Never, Never Intended To Be Used As A Shield For Controversial Legislation”
March 21, 2010 at 7:40 PM Report abuse
DTOM said...
Ellen - Just to be clear, nothing I posted was 'a lie'.
March 21, 2010 at 7:42 PM Report abuse
EllenW said...
The bill controlling reconciliation has plain language that makes it 100% clear that it is entirely legal to use it in this case. Senator Byrd is still a Senator and has agreed that it is indeed appropriate to use it. In the case of the Clinton bill it was not appropriate because that bill did not rescind the president's budgetary authority in whole or in part.
March 21, 2010 at 7:56 PM Report abuse
Dilli_Gaf said...
Ellen doesn't lie - she intentional misleads. Give it to us the way YOU want it to be. This new law, is anti-business, but why would you know that, you're not responsible for a payroll. I'll be willing to bet you live off the government dole - probably social services person. Social Justice For All
March 21, 2010 at 7:57 PM Report abuse
EllenW said...
Dilli - I run my own small business and have a couple of employees. I have had chances to expand that I have passed up partly because I do not want to cut back on the benefits I offer my employees. Not that it is any of your business, but I know EXACTLY what I am talking about. If small business owners like me are to continue to be productive and competitive we MUST have affordable health care programs to offer employees.
March 21, 2010 at 8:01 PM Report abuse
SacoSam said...
Awesome. I know who won't be getting my vote come November.
March 21, 2010 at 8:06 PM Report abuse
Dilli_Gaf said...
Ellen, my mistake, you talk as if you work in providing social services for the state. But you do talk in contradictions. Either you business is a cash cow, or you won't be able to keep up with the rising cost of expenses. Do you really expect me to believe that you would rather stifle you business just so you can keep your employees in healthcare ins? Oh, BTW, you're not the only business waiting out the uncertainty. It's more the norm right now. Gee, I hope I don't ever hear about you dropping the employees healthcare ins, or reducing the work force, just because the penalty for not supplying employee health is less expensive than paying the premiums
March 21, 2010 at 8:18 PM Report abuse
Paul_H said...
I have to hand it to you, EllenW. You do a great job of countering the naysayers with the facts. Thank you for this. As another small businessperson, I welcome these first steps toward reform. The bill's not perfect, but it's a good start.
March 21, 2010 at 8:19 PM Report abuse
UofA said...
ELLEN W= I hope I never need any part of your business, whatever it is! Your opinions are always "written in stone" and there isn't a chance of changing your mind on anything. Even when someone else has a more logical point! You are probably one of those damn yankees that think Y'all is two words. Leave Texas to someone that know about it. You surely don't pack the gear!
March 21, 2010 at 8:19 PM Report abuse
brightOne said...
"She an't no loboster woman"
March 21, 2010 at 8:23 PM Report abuse
brightOne said...
"Puppets do as puppets are told."
March 21, 2010 at 8:25 PM Report abuse
brightOne said...
"We took names. We watched how they voted. We know where they live."
March 21, 2010 at 8:26 PM Report abuse
brightOne said...
"You surely don't pack the gear!"
March 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM Report abuse
brightOne said...
"Pack the bags, the ride is over."
March 21, 2010 at 8:28 PM Report abuse
trisailer said...
I hope someone does a live shot of karl rove's head exploding when the votes are counted. The repugs have themselves to thank for this successful campaign. Too bad they almost destroyed the economy. This is just the beginning of the rebalancing of the country. The momentum from this is going to roll right over the just say no repugs.
March 21, 2010 at 8:33 PM Report abuse
EllenW said...
UofA - I suspect that you would never have any reason to use my business. I only have other successful businesses as customers.
March 21, 2010 at 8:41 PM Report abuse
EllenW said...
I said keeping the current level of benefits for my employees is PART of the reason I haven't expanded. I am also waiting until my children are older because I'm pretty sure I will have to spend more time at work at least for a couple of years after expanding. However, I do not want to grow my business at the expense of loyal employees who are one big part of my success to date. I won't be paying any fines since I have no plans to flout the law and scr*w my employees.
March 21, 2010 at 8:51 PM Report abuse
Retiree said...
I guess Mr.Michaud does not want to be reelected again. What a waste. I have lost all faith in polics. I put my all my faith in God. I will not make out the census and they can put it where the sun don't shine.
March 21, 2010 at 8:53 PM Report abuse
brightOne said...
"I put my all my faith in God. I will not make out the census and they can put it where the sun don't shine."
March 21, 2010 at 8:57 PM Report abuse
David said...
Why do we continue to elect representatives who want to kill our legacy of self-reliance and favor sponging off of those who work harder and have greater ambition?
March 21, 2010 at 9:01 PM Report abuse
EllenW said...
Here are some actual facts about the benefits to small business from this bill: --- http://blogs.consumerreports.org/health/2010/03/small-business-and-healthcare-reform.html ----- I am thrilled that small businesses like mine will be able to pay a larger % of our employees' insurance without taking a huge hit to the bottom line. In fact with the tax incentives I will end up netting the same or more from the business while providing lower cost health insurance to my employees!
March 21, 2010 at 9:08 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
FOOLS & IDIOTS BEING LEAD BY THEIR FUHRER OBAMANATION msh would think of berries the unionpuke is pathetic in his anti-American stance on life...hope you choke on Michaud's berries. Of course Dimone is all giddy about something that will be in court tomorrow ... stop and realize that this won't be there in 2013...all they get to do is tax you for 2 years and don't have to provide anything! Man I've thought the public schools were bad but if this is the kind of irrational citizens they produce we need to end public schools and go to nothing but charter schools... Remember Dimone you still can't be anymore than your buddies shack-up plaything! lol
March 21, 2010 at 9:14 PM Report abuse
EllenW said...
LOL - republican leadership has tipped their hand. They have already started complaining because this bill, that THEY are delaying the vote on, will be passed late at night. Yup, it's the old murder your parents and then whine and complain because you're an orphan ploy! The vote could have been held during prime time if Republicans weren't obstructing holding a vote at every possible turn.
March 21, 2010 at 9:16 PM Report abuse
Blazen said...
Government is now running Fannie, Freddie, AIG, GMAC, Healthcare, Medicaid, Medicare and now college student loans. How fast will our country go bankrupt?
March 21, 2010 at 9:25 PM Report abuse
ElizaToo said...
Goodbye, Michaud! Badacci, et al. YOU are outta here. ANY other party will defeat you. Won't matter which one.
March 21, 2010 at 9:28 PM Report abuse
EllenW said...
The very same people who predicted that TABOR, Son of TABOR, TABOR Rides Again and Rambo TABOR XIVVI would all pass resoundingly --- are now predicting that the Republicans shall rise again. Because stomping your feet and repeatedly saying "NO" has been so effective so far?
March 21, 2010 at 9:58 PM Report abuse
Letitride said...
I thought the President said everything was going to be transparent? How could this legislature pass this with only 2 days to read the whole bill. How can Rep. Michaud say that he thoroughly read this?
March 21, 2010 at 10:09 PM Report abuse
tim said...
Milton Friedman said there are only two ways that goods and services can be distributed: through 300 million making free choices everyday or the government choosing who among us they will grant goods and services. We have recreated 535 European type royals. It is seductive to think Big Government can provide us safety and stability; such is what the Soviets thought with central planning. In fact, it is us, acting freely, that can provide. Now, our Big Government is choking the Golden Goose of FREE MARKETS and FREE PEOPLE that "had" produced the most vibrant economy in the world. We will all be poorer and join the rest of the world in third rate care. Instead of having the highest cancer survival rates in the world, we will sink to mediocrity with long waits, broken medical equipment, and unmotivated medical providers. Fewer will saddle themselves with $300,000 med school loans. Instead we will have more IRS agents and more government bureaucrats.
March 21, 2010 at 10:14 PM Report abuse
Letitride said...
And how are hospitals, clinics going to exempt illegals from receiving health care. No one dares check the status of illegals b/c then they would be forced to report them and then waste the money to deport them.
March 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM Report abuse
tim said...
Milton Friedman said there are only two ways that goods and services can be distributed: through 300 million making free choices everyday or the govenment choosing who among us they will grant goods and services. We have recreated 535 European type royals. It is seductive to think Big Government can provide us safety and stability; such is what the Soviets thought with central planning. In fact, it is us, acting freely, that can provide. Now, our Big Government is choking the Golden Goose of FREE MARKETS and FREE PEOPLE that "had" produced the most vibrant economy in the world. We will all be poorer and join the rest of the world in third rate care. Instead of having the highest cancer survival rates in the world, we will sink to mediocrity with long waits, broken medical equipment, and unmotivated medical providers. Fewer will saddle themselves with $300,000 med school loans. Instead we will have more IRS agents and more government bureaucrats.
March 21, 2010 at 10:20 PM Report abuse
Tonto said...
Ellen, you must be an idiot. And a very small business with a big profit margin. Most small businesses are barely surviving. Thank goodness the law exempts you and other small businesses.But watch out for the inevitable tax increases on you and everyone else. Not to mention insurance premium hikes that will surely be more than the tax increases. Remember, this is not a government run health insurance program. You HAVE to buy it.
March 21, 2010 at 10:51 PM Report abuse
angryguy said...
The majority of the people saying the Dems are going to take a beating in Nov. would not vote for them anyway. The passage of health insurance reform will secure the Dem majority for years to come. It is good for America. Now we need single payer/medicare for all/ public option so we do not get bent over by the free market insurance companies anymore. We should not have to die or go broke because we get sick.
March 21, 2010 at 10:52 PM Report abuse
Tonto said...
Hey angryguy, Get a clue. Single payer/medicare for all is a LONG way off. Probably never. And the insurance companies, for now at least, are loving this crap law. Just take a look at their stocks tomorrow.
March 21, 2010 at 11:06 PM Report abuse
angryguy said...
I love the pro life argument. We want to invade the privacy of your body and make sure you have that baby (Rights of the individual?). If that baby gets sick it might die and we will do nothing to ensure the ability to obtain treatment for it's preexisting condition. Hypocrisy at its finest.
March 21, 2010 at 11:06 PM Report abuse
angryguy said...
Hey Tonto I am not the Lone Ranger and I have a clue and I Hope single payer is not that far off It is really the only way health care reform (not health insurance reform) is going to work. I am aware that this is good for the insurance companies and I think that part sucks but it is a step in the right direction.
March 21, 2010 at 11:18 PM Report abuse
ProudAmericn said...
The end of medical care as we know it is about to end. Well atleast we won't have the Canadians coming here anymore for treatment. Usher in the Wal-Mart Medical care theory--long lines, long waits and poor service. Don't be surprised if you see Doctors offices starting to close. Until this leftistslation is repealed GOD HELP US ALL.
March 21, 2010 at 11:18 PM Report abuse
C-Fairer said...
Where will Canadians go for good healthcare if we nationalize ours?____Gracias for the free healthcare Sen0r!______Abortion is not healthcare.___________Third world countries have univeral health care, why doesn't the United States.____________ Obamacare: Our Military did not fight and die for Health Care or Government control. They fought for freedom!
March 22, 2010 at 1:20 AM Report abuse
jinx said...
brightOne, did you decide to just be a parrot today? wanna cracker?
March 22, 2010 at 5:11 AM Report abuse
chddus1 said...
Well just make sure when they run again to vote them out sorry to see you go Mr. Michaud but I new calling your office was a waste of time
March 22, 2010 at 5:15 AM Report abuse
Dale6767 said...
Good God, some of you people are such idiots. Obama has been in office for just over a year. GW was in office for 8 years and single handedly nearly bankrupted the country and got us into 2 wars. His tax break handouts to his rich pals and his buddies in the insurance & pharmaceutical companies are what caused our troubles. Let's give this a chance & try to move forward. It takes time to fix 8 years of mismanagement.
March 22, 2010 at 6:28 AM Report abuse
TheCynic said...
"Important first step"? Which means, the real goal is "socialized medicine". Incrementalism is what Democrats are known for.
March 22, 2010 at 7:42 AM Report abuse
gle said...
Lets send Miscue back to the Millinockett to do janitorial work, that is all he is god for.As for pruneface send her ugly backside to an island in the Atlantic.
March 22, 2010 at 8:06 AM Report abuse
Krog said...
Well since we're posting youtube links...: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcksVklAyiI
March 22, 2010 at 8:07 AM Report abuse
Taxpayer said...
Goodbye Michaud and Pingree, losers!
March 22, 2010 at 8:10 AM Report abuse
EYESOPENED said...
michaud and pingree have sealed there own fate, the people said "NO" we do not want this!!! and they shove OBAMADONTCARE right down our throats..well start packing there will be new tenants in your space next election; Democrats are embarrassing the world not just the U.S. you have shamed me enough, today I go to town hall and change my party affiliation,now the messiah is going to work on his next bill making illegal aliens citizens....
March 22, 2010 at 8:20 AM Report abuse
EYESOPENED said...
Has anybody actually read the bill or are you just sucked in by the promises, read it then post,, but then a little too late, my small business will close within 2 years after 30 years.
March 22, 2010 at 8:26 AM Report abuse
LizieD said...
Thank you, Mike! You stood up for Mainers who struggle with for-profit insurance corporations' stranglehold on our healthcare.
March 22, 2010 at 8:27 AM Report abuse
IMPistov said...
Michaud is soon to be unemployed! He and Pingree have shot themselves!
March 22, 2010 at 8:33 AM Report abuse
Sam said...
lol Letitride - What rock have you been under for the past three months? "How could this legislature pass this with only 2 days to read the whole bill. " This bill was passed by the Senate LAST YEAR and has been in the public record for months.
March 22, 2010 at 8:42 AM Report abuse
cablegirl said...
By the People, For the People..Dear Mr. Michaud and Ms. Pingree I am very sorry that you did not listen to the people, and I want you to know that I along with many many Americans will be helping to bankroll your next opponent so you will nolonger have a job.Going along with Jimmy Carter Obama and his sneaky lying chorts are going to pay the ultimate when reelection rolls around. You will join the ranks of the unemployed.
March 22, 2010 at 8:55 AM Report abuse
cablegirl said...
Famous quote from Sneaky Pelosi"Let's pass the bill so we can finally see what's in it" What about the BILLIONS in kickbacks and earmarks that have NOTHING to do with Health reform! In 4 yrs the number of Doctors will be half of what it is today,but it won't matter because the country will be bankrupt!
March 22, 2010 at 9:00 AM Report abuse
august1 said...
Mike & Chellie, you have BOTH lost my vote going forward.
March 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM Report abuse
ProConserv said...
Never...Ever...elect, trust or believe a democRAT, liberal or progressive! THE RECENT SOCIALIST ACT BY CONGRESS IS WHY!!!
March 22, 2010 at 9:41 AM Report abuse
ProConserv said...
THIS BILL IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL! 37 States are filing a lawsuit! LOL! You liberal democRAT progressives are sooo stupid to think that you can waltz in and control American Liberty! This socialism will be thrown out and will not become law!
March 22, 2010 at 9:48 AM Report abuse
henryelm said...
"The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974" was used 70% of the time by the OPPONENTS of using it. Go figure. Hypocrits. "Puppets do as puppets are told."and the major puppeteer is some ticked this morning and calling for revolution again. Expect more nasty slurs. ON to win in Novemeber AGAIN. "Now, our Big Government is choking the Golden Goose of FREE MARKETS and FREE PEOPLE that "had" produced the most vibrant economy in the world." HMM and yet the world thinks it was unfettered uncontrolled greed (aka casino capitalism)that brought the free market down. Rand and Greenspan were WRONG!!!
March 22, 2010 at 10:02 AM Report abuse
Oak said...
I can't believe I voted for this guy. That will be the very last time I ever vote for a Democrat. Ever.
March 22, 2010 at 10:02 AM Report abuse
cablegirl said...
Oak said... I can't believe I voted for this guy. That will be the very last time I ever vote for a Gasp! Et tu Brute? all kidding aside I thought he was going to listen to the people and do the right thing,must have some earmark or been promised a plane ride?
March 22, 2010 at 10:08 AM Report abuse
henryelm said...
And yet seniors( and their families) will remember chelli and michaud riding the bus to canada with them to get cheaper drugs. And NOW they will remember the elimination of the donut hole leaving more money in THEIR pocket Who do you think THEY will vote for??? And SMALL business is going to remember being ABLE to PROVIDE HEALTH CARE for their employees without harming their bottom line, leaving MORE money in their pocket to invest in, drum roll, MORE JOBS to expand the economy. Guess who THEY will vote for?? And students and parents will get CHEAPER students loans and MORE IN PELL grants while reducing the deficit even MORE. Guess who THEY will vote for?? yup well the health care industy might still vote for the R's. BUT the D's just gave them 30 million more customers, so I doubt it.
March 22, 2010 at 10:16 AM Report abuse
henryelm said...
"The people" didn't say NO; the republicans did (and will continue to say no) The R's are out of step and out of touch. THEY are serving the lobbyists and their well heeled canpaign contributors. "The people" will get their say in November. So do you HAVE anyone to run AGAINST Michaud and Pingree???
March 22, 2010 at 10:30 AM Report abuse
Chew said...
I likw Rep. Michaud. I think he is a good man, good person, and does his best to do the right thing. Although I have disagreed with his positions in the past I have votred for him because I believe he has really tried to do the right thing for all of us. However, the amount of evidence supporting the increased costs, decreased services, and the burden to small business and individuals by the passing of this legislation is very clear. Because of the massive burden this will impose on all of us, and because the math does not lie, I will not be supporting Rep. Michaud in the future. The magnitude of damage this bill will create is so far beyond the scope of common sense we need to do whatever we can to replace the people who supported it with folks who will not be afraid to step up and make the tough choices.
March 22, 2010 at 10:58 AM Report abuse
cablegirl said...
I would bet the farm that any candidate that decides to win will be a shoe in.Oh and Einstein when the seniors start feeling the pinch from the 550 billion taken out of medicare to fund this new entitlement called Health Care reform, they will realize that the so called donut-hole fix was just another form of trickery and lies from our Sneky Dem Leaders,they will revolt!
March 22, 2010 at 11:01 AM Report abuse
henryelm said...
The $500 billion come from insurance companies over payments NOT recipients. Nice try though. Who here thinks "chew" ever voted for michaud or even lives in his district?? MOT ME!!Is ANYONE running against Pingree and Michaud??
March 22, 2010 at 11:11 AM Report abuse
RickD said...
Michaud and Pingree supported a new massive government program loaded with new taxes and spending that will put this country on the fast path toward bankruptcy? Well what a surprise. Both spent their time serving in Augusta doing the exact same thing. Time to rid Maine and the country of both. Can't wait for November.
March 22, 2010 at 11:37 AM Report abuse
IMPistov said...
Michaud ans Pingree..I want to hear your complaints went you are NOT reelected.
March 22, 2010 at 1:06 PM Report abuse
cablegirl said...
henryelm said... The $500 billion come from insurance companies over payments NOT recipients. Nice try though. Who here thinks "chew" ever voted for michaud or even I don't care what YOU think, 500 billion IS coming out of Medicare.
March 22, 2010 at 1:48 PM Report abuse
henryelm said...
cable girl--medicare advantage is offered by the private sector. They are ripping off and over charging seniors to enhance their profits. Like those over priced scooters you keep seeing advertised on TV.
March 22, 2010 at 1:57 PM Report abuse
DTOM said...
"Perhaps the most remarkable Democratic accomplishment this week was to make the process of passing ObamaCare as politically toxic as the bill itself. President Obama was elected by millions of Americans attracted to his promise to change Washington politics. These were voters furious with earmarks, insider deals and a lack of transparency. They were the many Americans who, even before this week, held Congress in historic low esteem. They'll remember this spectacle come November." ------ "Never before has the average American been treated to such a live-action view of the sordid politics necessary to push a deeply flawed bill to completion. It was dirty deals, open threats, broken promises and disregard for democracy that pulled ObamaCare to this point, and yesterday the same machinations pushed it across the finish line."----Inside the Pelosi Sausage Factory... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703775504575136133814210008.html?mod=rss_opinion_main#printMode
March 22, 2010 at 6:44 PM Report abuse